Baptism and Church Membership - Again
Justin Taylor highlighted a revised section in Wayne Grudem's latest edition of his (magnificent) Systematic Theology text in which Grudem, reversing his position from a previous edition of the book, now argues against open membership (the idea that baptist churches should admit paedobaptized believers into church membership). Here's the heart of Grudem's reasoning:
But the most serious difficulty arises when people begin to think about what such a “compromise position” implies about the views of baptism held by the people who go along with this compromise. For people who hold to infant baptism, they have to be able to say that it is acceptable for believing parents not to baptize their infant children. But according to a paedobaptist view, this seems close to saying that is acceptable for these parents to disobey a command of Scripture regarding the responsibility of parents to baptize their children. How can they really say this?On the other side, those who hold to believer’s baptism (as I do) would have to be willing to admit into church membership people who have been baptized as infants, and who did not make a personal profession of faith at the time they were baptized. But from a believer’s baptism position, genuine baptism has to follow a personal profession of faith. So how can believer’s baptism advocates in good conscience say that infant baptism is also a valid form of baptism? That contradicts what they believe about the essential nature of baptism – that it is an outward sign of an inward spiritual change, so that the apostle Paul could say, “As many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3:27).
For someone who holds to believer’s baptism, admitting to church membership someone who has not been baptized upon profession of faith, and telling the person that he or she never has to be baptized as a believer, is really giving up one’s view on the proper nature of baptism. It is saying that infant baptism really is valid baptism! But then how could anyone who holds to this position tell anyone who had been baptized as an infant that he or she still needed to be baptized as a believer? This difficulty makes me think that some kind of “compromise” position on baptism is not very likely to be adopted by denominational groups in the future.
John Piper, an articulate advocate of open membership, replies to Wayne Grudem. I offer just one question regarding Piper's reply, and would be most grateful if any who are more knowledgeable on this matter could fill us in. Piper claims, "Very few, it seems to me, have really come to terms with the seriousness of excluding believers from membership in the local church. It is preemptive excommunication."
I wonder: Does this line of reasoning have historical precedence?
This is a complicated matter, and both sides have inherent difficulties. I previously offered these thoughts.
(HT: JT)





Comments
Alex,
John Bunyan held a very similar view on this. Also in the 1800s there was a movement concerning this in England, I believe.
Here in America, the whole landmarkist controversy surrounded the idea that we should bar from communion non-Baptists, and not allow non-Baptists to preach in Baptist pulpits. In reality, since the Lord's Supper is a church ordinance, an open communion view is very close to an open membership view. The New Hampshire Baptist Confession of 1833 affirms that baptism "is prerequisite to the privileges of a Church relation: and to the Lord's Supper". I belive the London Baptist Confession from the 1600s would agree.
Historically, Baptists are in the minority, it is only of late they've gained prominence. Before the 1600s there really weren't any true Baptists, as such. That being said, at the start of the whole Baptist revolution John Bunyan was arguing forcefully against a Baptist only membership. And other denominations eventually allowed Baptist believers to co-exist.
Anyways, I recently posted on the issue myself. Your welcome to join the discussion at my blog, too! (You'll find a couple links to the Bunyan documentation there, too.)
Blessings from the Cross,
Bob
Posted by: Bob Hayton | August 9, 2007 10:23 AM
Bob,
In the shower, immediately after posting, I realized someone was going to mention John Bunyan. I meant to come back and delete my question, but you beat me to it! :)
However, I'm not sure it is that simple. For one, many prominent Baptists who do not embrace open membership do allow Presbyterian ministers to preach in their pulpits (both today and in the past). Secondly, I'm not sure John Bunyan is the best example, as Mark Dever has discussed elsewhere.
Even allowing for the (anomalous) Bunyan example, is it not the case that the majority of Baptists and Presbyterians have historically shown love across denominational lines, rather than suppressing the issue for the sake of intra-church unity?
The problems Grudem points to are real, as are the examples of parents in Presbyterian churches who have been threatened with church discipline if they don't baptize their infants. (Though I'm told that such decisions are made by individual Presbyterian churches, and that their denominations don't mandate this policy.)
Hope you are doing well,
Alex
Posted by: Alex Chediak | August 9, 2007 11:41 AM
Thanks, Alex. I was too quick on the draw for you!
Posted by: Bob Hayton | August 9, 2007 04:45 PM