Os Guinness on Potential Evangelical Manifesto Concerns
I previously expressed my thoughts on the recently published Evangelical Manifesto. I was honored that Dr. Guinness, one of the document's originators, was willing to field a few questions from me on this matter. He permitted me to publish his response, only requesting that I mention these are "hasty responses on a hectic day! Above all we are not out to attack or exclude anyone, but to call for reforms that make us all better followers of Christ. So we hope people will not make knee-jerk reactions, but study, think , and pray."
CHEDIAK: According to this AP article, Focus on the Family's Board of Directors had "myriad concerns about the effort". Any response?
GUINNESS: I have not spoken to Jim Dobson personally, but I know John Huffman has done so. People were asked to sign as individuals, not as representatives of organizations, but he said it was his board that advised him not to sign for the moment. I honestly don’t know the full thinking behind the decision. Remember that we call the signers ‘early signers’ because they are the signers so far. Hundreds of others are already joining us, and we invite all Evangelicals to consider and sign.
CHEDIAK: When you express your desire that we move beyond single-issue politics, are you saying that Christians should be more open to voting for pro-choice candidates if they demonstrate passion and concern for issues like poverty, racism, and the environment?
GUINNESS: Emphatically not, and the Manifesto is blunt about the undiminished fight for life and marriage.
CHEDIAK: Or are you saying that while it is morally advisable to vote pro-life, we should hold pro-life candidates to a higher standard on issues such as poverty, racism, and the environment? Is it both/and?
GUINNESS: One of the ways we have been exploited is that certain politicians have said they were pro-life (or pro-marriage, or pro-school prayer, or whatever), but have done nothing apart from a symbolic vote every so often. With any vote, there is always a raft of policy issues to be considered as well as other issues such as the candidate’s character. We should never vote on a single issue alone – unless 1) the issue is supremely important (which life is), and 2) there is a serious chance of it being resolved or forwarded in the next election cycle (which isn’t usually the case with life).
CHEDIAK: The Manifesto reads, "we Evangelicals wish to stand clear from certain conservative and fundamentalist positions in public life that are widely confused with Evangelicals." Why let others dictate what we can be (publicly) for or against merely by their inappropriately conflating pro-life (or whatever) with evangelicalism?
GUINNESS: Life is not the problem, and you are right that we should not be defined by the world. As I said at the press conference yesterday, the issue is not re-branding or image. It is reality. But the Bible says a lot about the fact that we should so live that the name of God is honored. Thus when the Lord is publicly represented by Pastor Fred Phelps (‘God hates fags’) or by the Reconstructionists, it is not surprising that we are called ‘homophobic,’ ‘theocratic,’ and seeking to impose Christendom.
CHEDIAK: You call on "Those who share our dedication to the poor, the suffering, and the oppressed," urging them to work with us to "bring care, peace, justice, and freedom to those millions of our fellow-humans who are now ignored, oppressed, enslaved, or treated as human waste and wasted humans by the established orders in the global world." I agree with this exhortation, but would you acknowledge that our differing worldviews might result in our having widely diverging methods to addressing these problems? For example, socialistic reforms seem to minimize the doctrine of man's depravity. Any thoughts?
GUINNESS: Good point. Francis Schaeffer used to call for our being ‘co-belligerents’ rather than ‘allies’ when it comes to causes we share with people of different faiths, such as atheists against abortion or feminists against pornography. But we always recognize the ultimate inadequacy of their basis for fighting the issue, and when the appropriate moment comes we can be clear about pointing them to Christ. William Wilberforce is a great example – he worked with people of all sorts of spiritual and moral (and immoral) backgrounds, yet led many of them to faith in Christ too.
[HT: AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite]





Comments
Os has always been clear that for him ( and also for me) there is no God but God and I have known him though not so well for almost forty years since the time when he was a young student at L'abri Fellowship in Switzerland and he certainly is no reactionary nor a Fundamentalist in the perjorative sense of the term.To me he stands for the faith once delivered like other stalwarts of the faith for instance J Gresham Machen, Francis A Schaeffer and Stuart Briscoe. We need in these heady days people like thes and others of like mind to stand firm for who and what we believe while still having compassion, while still being truly human and alive to the needs of others and trying by the grace of God to show His graciousness even in and despite our falleness and in the midst of a fallen but still incredibly beautiful world
Posted by: David S Muir | May 9, 2008 02:17 PM
Thanks for the interview. In light of what the Manifesto attempts to do, it is no surprise that some religious leaders in the broad evangelical camp will be distrusting of its framers, and even offended by its call. But, we will be able to tell just how credible the Manifesto's claims are by just who squeals. Those organizations who have led the way in politicizing the Gospel will certainly be heard early and loudly. Let them yell. They will try to undermine the ethos of the manifesto, and in so doing give further proof that they have willingly been manning the sidelines thinking that is where the real game is being played.
Posted by: David W. Hegg | May 10, 2008 02:03 PM
David,
Unfortunately, distrust is established from the outset when prominent leaders on the right (e.g. Chuck Colson, Al Mohler, Dobson, etc.) were either not invited or allowed to offer input on the document's framing and articulation. Then, when Jim Wallis' signature is revealed (at the release of the document), further questions arise. This, particularly given Wallis' longstanding and unapologetic interjection of left wing politics.
I am glad that the document affirms important social views such as the pro-life viewpoint (as an important value in the evangelical community). However, this document will be received by the media and by many Christians as a powerful defeat for those who advocate rights for the unborn or oppose same sex marriage (on the grounds that it has been empirically proven to be a socially & morally corrosive force). While I doubt that this was the intent of most of the signers, I suspect they realized that would be a consequence of their action and yet they decided to do so anyway. That deeply saddens me.
Posted by: Derek | May 11, 2008 03:04 PM
I contend that self-discipline is the bedrock upon which human character is built and that aspects of human virtue constitute the contents of human character; e.g., Truthfulness is the foundation of all human virtue...Methinks Os Guinness might agree with me on this. Thank you.
Posted by: Andrew Nelson | December 24, 2008 10:20 PM